Piano Inspires Podcast: Sean Chen

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To celebrate the latest episode of the Piano Inspires Podcast featuring Sean Chen, we are sharing an excerpted transcript of his conversation with Sara Ernst. Want to learn more about Chen? Check out the latest installment of the Piano Inspires Podcast. To learn more, visit pianoinspires.com. Listen to our latest episode with Chen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or our website!

Sara Ernst: I want to ask about you as a teacher, you know, because that’s a different process when you have another person where you’re helping them to discover [how to express their ideas] and find that, and explore that. So how has that been for you as an instructor?

Sean Chen: It’s a very interesting experiment and experience for me, because I’m always trying to think, “Okay, am I doing the right approach for this student?” I have a default approach I like to do. You know, I’m very logical. I like to talk about form, talk about articulations, which reflects my teachers. It also depends on the kind of piece, because if it’s something— I think French pieces just draw the [Jerome] Lowenthal out from me. So I go into, like, more the spirit of music making and, you know, the imagination, but sometimes I have to remind myself to, you know, take a step back and be like, “Hey, is this working? Do I need to try a different approach for this student? I’m still relatively young and I think I still have a lot of room to grow in terms of being able to more efficiently pinpoint, like, “Oh, this student needs me to be maybe even more strict about not letting them get away with stuff.” Whereas some other students I know, “Okay, they’ll fix it next time.” I don’t like people being too pushy with me. I’m like, “I’ll get it, you know, I’ll work on it. I’ll get it. I remember what you say.” But not everyone’s like that. Some people want to be a little bit more strictly guided. 

SE: It makes me think back to your teacher who put the dates in your score. Right?

SC: Yeah! For example, I even, as a student, didn’t really write stuff in my score. Sometimes my teacher, Lowenthal, didn’t really write too much stuff. Matti [Raekellio] wrote a lot of stuff. There’s big circles and lines and big all caps.

SE: And then you open the book and just think fondly of your teacher when you see all those things.

SC: Yeah! So sometimes, again, I have to remember myself like, “Oh, I should go write it in their score because if they’re not writing it, I have to first be like, “Okay, are they going to remember it based on my experience of teaching them?” Because I know I don’t like to write stuff in my score, but maybe they need to. So it’s stuff like that. That’s very, very “psychology of teaching.” It’s not so much like are you a good pianist? It’s like, are you good at understanding people.

SE: Oh no it’s very true, right? It’s interesting how that can even change through the course of working with a student where their needs will change over time, right?

SC: Definitely, yeah. I try to channel my teacher when I [was] growing up, trying to get them interested about repertoire. You know, “Hey, have you heard this composer? Have you heard these pieces?” Trying to get them to broaden their horizons because I think at least from what I see where I’m teaching, a lot of students just want to play the standard repertoire. Even amongst the standard repertoire, a very limited version of the standard repertoire. I’m like, “Have you considered—do you know any Szymanowski?” “No, who’s that?” I don’t know nearly enough that I, you know, I think about post-modern stuff. I appreciated it when my teachers asked me, “Oh, have you heard this piece?” And so I try to do that too. Some of them take, well, to it. Some of them bring things in and I’m like, “Oh, you too! You actually chose this piece. Good! Whereas others just bring the same Beethoven sonatas in. I’m like, “Okay, all right, fine. We’ll work on that. That’s great.”

SE: And then plant some seeds and see where they go.

If you enjoyed this excerpt from Piano Inspires Podcast’s latest episode, listen to the entire episode with Sean Chen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or our website!

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